perodeformero Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsuyoshi Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Pregrst opustajucih nota... Norah Jones - Day Breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbrujic Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 hours ago, perodeformero said: Sitno mi je... Je li to piše "half-speed" i "reversed"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perodeformero Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Jeste sitno, ali to piše, tako da ne brini za vid. Mada, ionako ne slušam verziju sa okačenog omota, nego standardnu, dobro poznatu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbrujic Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 A baš htedoh da bitam kako zvuči ta naopaka verzija... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DejanM Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 18 sati ranije, trotter said: ^ Odlicno je to. Ja imam rip duplog cd-a pod nazivom Complete Live at The Half Note. Prvi disk je kako je opisano, drugi je samo trio, bez Wes-a. Odlicna muzika. Drago mi je da se i tebi dopada. Nisam znao da postoji i taj drugi snimak na kom sviraju bez Wes Montgomery-ija. Ako je suditi po prvom snimku, gde sviraju svi zajedno, i u kakvoj je formy Wynton Kelly bio, mora da je i taj drugi snimak odlican. Uzgred, meni su na ovom albumu dve stvari zapale za ... usi. Prva je pod kakvim je jakim uticajem Art Tatuma Wynton Kelly bio. Nije on bio jedini, Art je uticao na citavu generaciju pijanista 1950-tih (medju njima je verovatno najpoznatiji Oscar Peterson). Druga stvar je nacin sviranja Cobba na bubnjevima. Sve vreme mozete na jednom kanalu (ako imate iole bolji HiFi sistem) cuti Cobbov Ride Cymbals - nacin sviranja koji je tih godina na velika vrata uveo Elvin Jones svirajuci sa Coltrane-om, iako je ta tehnika bila poznata od ranije (Kenny Clarke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Druga stvar je nacin sviranja Cobba na bubnjevima. Sve vreme mozete na jednom kanalu (ako imate iole bolji HiFi sistem) cuti Cobbov Ride Cymbals - nacin sviranja koji je tih godina na velika vrata uveo Elvin Jones svirajuci sa Coltrane-om, iako je ta tehnika bila poznata od ranije (Kenny Clarke). moze biti da imam takav sistem ali mislim da se to moze cuti i na tranzistoru. Ride cymbal je jasno raspoznatljiv i sam ton i trajanje zvuka su uveliko razliciti od hi-hat zvuka. Verovatno si mislio na samu tehniku i zvuk koji Cobb dobija tom tehnikom. Koliko znam, a i citao sam tu i tamo o tome, bubanj uopste nije prost instrument kakvim ga mnogi smatraju, vec zvuk prilicno zavisi od tehnike sviranja. Mislim na "akcentovanje" kod udarca palicom, na "tezinu" udarca i kombinaciju tezina kod jedne iste ritmicki zadate strukture npr. 4/4, sto je kod jazz bubnja znacajna stvar i odvaja dobre od prosecnih bubnjara. Lako se cuje na koncertima gde nastupa grupa za grupom i bez ozvucenja (miksete) razni bubnjari zvuce skroz drugacije za istim setom bubnjeva. Evo zanimljiv komentar jednog bubnjara o Cobbovoj tehnici: "As(I(saw(in(my(lesson(with(Jimmy(Cobb,(he(has(a(remarkable(ride(cymbal(technique.(He(plays( with(the(back(of(his(hand(up(and(makes(twisting(motions(with(his(wrist.(In(this(way(he( achieves(an(accent(on(every(quarter(note.(This(is(perhaps(most(notable(on(Miles(Davis(record( ‘Kind(of(Blue’.(The(eight(note(between(the(two(quarter(notes(is(almost(inaudible.(This( particular(right(hand(technique(works(for(him(but(since(every(hand(is(different(it(doesn’t( have(to(work(for(every(drummer.(As(John(Riley(told(me,(lots(of(drummers(trying(it, ended(up( messing(up(their(wrist(completely." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Izvin'te za zagrade u citatu, nesto kopiranje iz pdf-a brljavi na telefonu 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St&Co Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Night Beat - Sam Cooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trotter Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 And here comes the Skip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 "Please, write me a few of yo' lines" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Posle tragedije koja ga je zadesila drugačiji album i nije mogao da izađe. Lično meni se album sviđa, nekako volim tužnog i po malo morbidnog Cave-a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbrujic Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Nije li Cave (sa Seed-sima) oduvek bio na "mračnoj" strani? Nailazim na različite impresije ovim poslednjim albumom. Bilo je da je jako mračan, bilo je i da se Cave vraća korenima (?), vrlo iskren..., ali uvek i "drugačiji". Posle nekoliko preslušavanja, rekao bih da je reč samo o Cave-ovom albumu. Nešto setnijem nego što smo navikli, ali nije da i do sada nije bilo toga. Atmosfera je konstantna i ne baš tendenciozno izgrađena, nešto ređe "prekidana" naglašenom dramatikom (Cave-ovo srednje ime). Ellis je "pomeren" malo napred u učešću. U svakom slučaju, utiska sam da se Cave trudio da ovo ne bude "dedicated to my son" ploča. Cave stari i, nažalost, ne postaje interesantniji. I takav ume da prija. Posebno nama starcima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cortina Dampeco Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 0:39 PM, perodeformero said: U prevodu: "Bez tihotapkanja"... Tihotapke su meke kucne papuce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trotter Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Pregrst opustajucih nota... Norah Jones - Day Breaks Svidza mi se novah Norah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St&Co Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Susan wong-woman in love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deki VS Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Jimmy Rushing And His Orchestra - Little Jimmy Rushing And The Big Brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cortina Dampeco Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Pregrst opustajucih nota... Norah Jones - Day Breaks Svidza mi se novah Norah. Radila ozbiljna jazz equipa. Zvuk le manje otvoren čini mi se, kao da je sniman četrdesetih. Doima se kao sephia na omotu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron man Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Dosta različito od Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelijano Buendija Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 ^ajd malo opširnije pliz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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