gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Imam moju ideju i recicu je kad budem procitao vasi odgovori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetarL Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Slusao sam Micromegu transport neznam oznaku sa Karan dac-om.Sta reci...Naj... Mislim da ce na kraju Gruzanin da nam lupi samar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubisgrau Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 sony playstation:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Case Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Teac VRDS (kao princip). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja959 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Re lazicp:jel se mi to krecemo u losem drustvu???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paja959 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Ali i ovo bih uzeo u najuzi izbor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetarL Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 @ Paja Zbog cega lose?O gospodinu u cijoj umetnickoj radionici vlada kreativan haos samo najbolje. Pozdrav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja959 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 re lazicp:sorry,nisi me shvatio,apostrofirano sam mislio..Mancika ti je jedan od vrlo retkih,ko bela vrana.. znas kako,neki kad vide taj toranj+staro drustvo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nkrgovic Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Ako ja dobro kapiram definiciju pojma u pitanju je uredjaj koji cita sadrzinu CD-a i onda prosledjuje digitalne podatke nekom D/A konvertoru. Moj (kvarni) predlog bi bio : Externi SCSI CD (jos bolje CD-RW), povezan na Apple sa Mac OS X 10.4 i Core Audio . Visestruko citanje i extrakcija na hard disk par sati pre upotrebe pozeljni . Jos kad bi DAC bio FireWire (em buffer-ovan, em veliki sustained transfer rate... ). Je'l primate ovakav odgovor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 nkrgovic, pre godinu dana sam probao ali nikad nisam dalje isao. na hard disk sam stavio stotinu cd-a irazni converter : apogee, 3dlab, krell,brinkmann, mbl, dcs, belcanto,itd. i mogu da vam kazem da NIKAD nisam cuo bolje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Evo sta sam napravio kod jednog prijatelja : http://www.claudebbg.com/blog/2006/12/1 ... #more-2421 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetarL Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Gruzanin jel' si i ti prodao dusu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Nisam ali moram posteno da priznam.hard disk je mnogo vise precizni i stabilni nego bilo koju mehaniku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Jos ako je IBM SCSI sa antishok patentom i bar desetina mb bafera na 20 000 obrtaja u minutu ..... o da.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 bilo je silvermax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubisgrau Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 shta fali mac miniju? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkrgovic Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 U bre ljudi cime se vi igrate... Uglavnom, ne razumem se toliko u audio, ali u racunare se brate razumem: Svaki moderan hard disk ima sustained transfer nekoliko puta veci od onoga koji je potreban za reprodukciju CD zvuka - CD ima oko 1.5Mbit/s koliko se ja secam... Ne treba ti nikakav poseban buffer, niti sta za to. Ono sto meni deluje bitno su : - Low-latency arhitektura zvucnog softvera, kroz dobru podrsku u kernelu. Nije neophodna, ali je JAKO zgodna - jer omogucava laksi rad. - Prenos nekim normanim medijumom, koji ima buffer. S/PDIF i AES rade na clock i podatke, koliko ja znam, prenose direktno - prakticno serijski. Male razlike u tajmingu ovde dovode do toga da DAC dobija nesavrsen signal, to, valjda, zovu jitter. FireWire (i USB) imaju buffer, plus proveru podataka, tako da pogresan prenos moze biti ponovljen, a neprekidnost obezbedjuje buffer. Slicno je kao kod IP protokola: S/PDIF je kao UDP a IEEE1394 kao TCP.. Ovakav rad interfejsa garantovano obezbedjuje izbegavanje svake mehanike, loseg clock-a, jitter-a i slicnih gluposti sve do DAC-a. Na zalost, DAC ostaje svoj na svome, i njegov kvalitet ostaje presudan, ali bar znate da do njega stize tacno ono sto treba. I da, sto kaze gruzanin ono sto drzis na hard-u nije isto ono sto treba slati kroz npr. USB, tako da je potreban softver koji to dobro radi. Tome sluzi CoreAudio (na windows-u ASIO, srecnici sa ljubicastim SGI ulaznicama imaju I2O karte koje to same rade ) i low-latency arhitektura koji obezbedjuju nesmetan rad softveru za konverziju. Kad se to lepo uklopi DAC MORA da dobije idealne podatke. Sta ce on sa njima znati da uradi - je onda vec na njemu . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 anubisgau nista mu ne fali stavili smo Sonica kuticu koja menja usb u spdif-u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkrgovic Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 shta fali mac miniju? Ako mislis za zvuk, po meni, fali samo dobar FireWire externi DAC. Sve ostalo je sjajno . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubisgrau Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Ako mislis za zvuk, po meni, fali samo dobar FireWire externi DAC. Sve ostalo je sjajno . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruzanin Posted May 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 za mene jos treba opotribiti spdif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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