zek Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 NaÅ¡ih ruku delo Prvi utisci, pre zvaniÄnog testa: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/traf ... ience.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheda Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Au sto je ljep:) ali zar nije to high end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neskor Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Gde to moze da se poslusa i kupi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubisgrau Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 po ceni nije, ali navodno svira fenomenalno, po recima onih koji su ga culi. zanima me jel taj trafo cija je slika prilozena u ovom pojacalu ili nije? nesto mi ovi okrugli oklopi mirisu na toruse, a sad da li je to OK staviti u SET, napisace neko ko zna o tome vise od mene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja959 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Izgleda super jel slusao ko to? ima li soft start/stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubisgrau Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 OK, nasao With single-ended output transformers commonly of the EI type or double C cores, the apparent toroids on deck of the Experience might raise question marks. So I asked Mr. Darko Sasic to outline the design criteria of the project. But first, a quickie in geographics. Serbia of late used to be central Yugoslavia until the dissolution of that Socialist Federal Republic in 1990. When Montenegro left the union with Serbia last year, Serbia became its own country once more and, starting in the West proceeding clockwise, is surrounded today by Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina. Yugoslavia of course was home to the Elektronska Industrija factory in Niš and produced the famous EI tubes under Philips license as early as 1951. Ei has now temporarily suspended operations and is said to be restructuring, "with all quality controls, specs and materials being re-assessed to bring you a better product." Slovakia as the home of JJ Electronics meanwhile sits north of Hungary and, clockwise again, is surrounded by the Czech Republic, Poland and the Ukraine. The Czech Republic meanwhile recalls Riccardo Kron's KR Audio and the Tesla valve factory. Eastern Europe and vacuum tubes go way back then. Against such history, it's fitting to see Trafomatic author its own valve integrated outfitted with JJ output glass. Now to Mr. Darko's technical descriptions: "Underneath the canisters we have dual C core output transformers and a toroidal power transformer. The amplifier circuit is a simple two-stage design with coupling capacitor and no feedback. In the first stage, we have an ECC81/12AT7 whose two halves are connected in parallel. The amplifier was initially tested with Telefunken ECC81s but our goal was that it should work fine with current production tubes. Tube rolling with expensive small signal NOS variants is of course possible. The coupling capacitor is by Mundorf, the volume pot by Alps, the electrolytics are by Nippon Nichicon, Siemens and other quality brands. The 5U4G tube rectifier circuit is simple and well oversized for the job. The 2A3 heaters use a DC supply for better S/N. "Important: It is strongly recommended to use only new production 2A3s (JJ, Svetlana, various Chinese) because our anode dissipation is set to 18 watts. Old, rare and expensive tubes can be damaged or experience shortened life with reduced performance. The power supply is 230/115V, 50/60Hz but should be changed only by an experienced technician because it'll require rewiring the amplifier. Input sensitivity is 1Vrms, power output 2 x 4 watts into 4/8 ohms. Frequency response is 10Hz - 35kHz (-3dB), S/N at 1-watt output 64dB. Distortion is 0.9% at 1 watt, 5% at 4.4 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheda Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Menno Vanderveen bi se zagrcnuo da su torusi u pitanju. A i pojacalo bi debelo uslo high end (i po ceni i svakako drugacije) Poz Mada bas bih voleo kada bi neka nasa firma sutra izbacila SE torus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C B Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Svaka cast, eto kako se dokazuje pamet!!! Profi napravljen uredjaj (pogotovo obzirom na domace uslove), odlicno marketinski propracen (super sajt za nase uslove i odlicne fotke) i na kraju test u vrlo uticajnom mediju!!! Zaista mnogo toga u jako malo vremena! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petronius Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Svaka cast, eto kako se dokazuje pamet!!! Profi napravljen uredjaj (pogotovo obzirom na domace uslove), odlicno marketinski propracen (super sajt za nase uslove i odlicne fotke) i na kraju test u vrlo uticajnom mediju!!! KonaÄno da je neko ovde poradio i po marketingu (Å¡to je na zapadu glavna stvar koja prodaje ureÄ‘aje) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan123 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Stvarno izgleda....Svaka cast ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefaca Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 mislim da se polako srbija otvara a da svet kapira da imamo sta da ponudimo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Experience One je proveo kod mene u kući poslednjih mesec dana, pogađajte zašto. Nisu torusi u izlazu, to su dupla C jezgra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neskor Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 I kakvi su utisci? Koliko to kosta kod nas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja959 Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Experience One je proveo kod mene u kući poslednjih mesec dana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Ne, nema soft start. Ova snaga ne može da zatalasa membranu ali se Äuje hladna emisija. Ima vrlo nizak Å¡um i brum (oko 15 mV) za direktno grejane cevi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paja959 Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Ne, nema soft start. Ova snaga ne može da zatalasa membranu ali se čuje hladna emisija. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Male za ovo pojacalo, 90 dB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ljuba Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Vratimo se na Trafomatic. Pozdrav iz Berlina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micke1 Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Veorvatno bi dobro radili sa nekim Avantgarde modelima (DUO?),video sam uparene na nekom sajtu, ali cena Avantgarde je malo visoka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zflazar Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Ima i nastavak testa na 6moons-u. http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/traf ... nce_2.html Nisu baš sve lovorike, sudeći po poslednjem pasusu, ali i to treba shvatiti relativno... i naravno, pohvaliti trud i entuzijazam konstruktora iz Srbije! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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