miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Vasa iskustva sa kablovima za struju u audiu.Razlika u zvuku sa duzinom kabla 1m. 1,5m. 1,8m.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Изнад 180цм богатији, пунији звук са више детаља. Зашто... ајд сад... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Do tog zakljucka ste dosli poredjenjem istih kablova razlicite duzine ili? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 90, 120, 180, 210cm ... slušano s istim modelom. Ako razlike i ima, toliko je mala da se ne bih usudio reći da bih je detektirao. Između 2 različita strujna kabela, praktično bilo koja, nema problema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.R. Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Uticaj duzine strujnog kabla jako zavisi i od njegove konstrukcije. Kod kablova koji svojom konstrukcijom predstavljaju filtere, sto je kabl duzi, uticaj ce biti veci. Drugo je pitanje da li je taj uticaj subjektivno poziitivan ili negativan za krajnjeg korisnika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 sati ranije, miletrosak said: Do tog zakljucka ste dosli poredjenjem istih kablova razlicite duzine ili? Исти каблови различите дужине, од 1м до 5м. Неко чује разлику у кабловима, неко не верује да ралике има. Свако ће пренети своје мишљење и утисак. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecoki Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Još jedna tema da se ubedimo da će kabel od 500e dovesti sisteme od 500e i 5000e na isti lestvicu…ma daj… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delija Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Jok i nece - ali mora da bude 10 puta duzi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toza Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 A debljina? Kako utiče debelina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toza Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 A krutost? Šta radi ukrućenje? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toza Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 sat ranije, Thecoki said: Još jedna tema da se ubedimo da će kabel od 500e dovesti sisteme od 500e i 5000e na isti lestvicu…ma daj… Griješiš. Još jedna tema za razbibrigu... Da li je duži i tanji bolji od krućeg i debljeg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Theory regarding power cable length Power cables also carry lots of disturbances besides the nice clean power. In the case of having a setup with several cables, and cables of equal length would be used, at least these picked up disturbances would arrive at the same time and thus would do less harm. In this case, you’d have the best focus and detailing while cables of various lengths would only diffuse the disturbances and hence the signals, resulting in less focus, more haze, and a more loose bass. That’s one theory. A second possible explanation would be more obvious: the longer the cable, the more of its character shines through. This seemed to be confirmed in listening tests later, see below. Power cables – In practice Even though the theory says that the cables in a system should have equal length, I cannot confirm this by performing practical tests. In the reference-setup, I’ve performed several tests and they show that shorter power cables sound tighter and have more attack while longer power cables sound more fluid and more relaxed. This goes for all cables I tested so far and that includes the very different Lapp and Belden power cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 sati ranije, Thecoki said: Još jedna tema da se ubedimo da će kabel od 500e dovesti sisteme od 500e i 5000e na isti lestvicu…ma daj… Ja to ne vidim iz inicijalnog posta, niti to itko tvrdi. Pa onda ne znam čemu ovakav post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delija Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Mozda zato sto je ovo jedini Hi-Fi forum na svetu na kom se vise diskutuje o zicama nego o zvucnicima, pojacalima, DAC-ovima, transportima... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Људи дискутују о ономе шта могу и планирају да пазаре, набаве. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecoki Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Nisam protiv diskusije,ali da su to prioriteti u odnosu na komponete u sistemu? Što kaže Čvarkov "evo usraću se sad" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Sve komponente imam kao i kablove,samo bi menjao strujne pa zato pitanje vezano za duzinu istih. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Човеку дошли на ред струјни каблови за замену. Треба да их прескочи и опет мења појачало и/или звучнике а да остави каблове од раније, па када замени опет уместо каблова да мења упорно друге компоненте система? Хех... Шта ако не жели да мења друге компоненте? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Mislim da je pitanje bilo dovoljno jasno.Razlika u zvuku sa duzinom strujnog kabla od 1m. 1,5m. 1,8m.? Ako neko moze da doprinese svojim iskustvom ,lepo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecoki Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Kod ozbiljno uradjenih napajanja na uredajima strujni kabel ima zanemarljivu ulogu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Ne bi da te razocaram ali debelo gresis.Kod dobrog napajanja se bas cuje razlika samo sto to nije predmet diskusije jer se sve to vec podrazumeva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonichammer Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Kod lose konstruisanih uredjaja aksesoari poput kablova npr, ne donose bitnu razliku. Kablovi donose finese u zvucnom smislu. Gde sustina nije valjana tu “sminkanje” ne pomaze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonichammer Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 17 minuta ranije, miletrosak said: Mislim da je pitanje bilo dovoljno jasno.Razlika u zvuku sa duzinom strujnog kabla od 1m. 1,5m. 1,8m.? Ako neko moze da doprinese svojim iskustvom ,lepo. Pre nekih 10ak godina bilo je neke price na ovom forumu da strujni kablovi duzine manje od 1,8m koliko god bili kvalitetni, me mogu da pokazu svoj pun potencijal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecoki Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, miletrosak said: Ne bi da te razocaram ali debelo gresis.Kod dobrog napajanja se bas cuje razlika samo sto to nije predmet diskusije jer se sve to vec podrazumeva. Razocarao si me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miletrosak Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 In the reference-setup, I’ve performed several tests and they show that shorter power cables sound tighter and have more attack while longer power cables sound more fluid and more relaxed. Izvuceno iz predhodnog posta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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