Aoxomoxoa Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Na primer dva kraja otpornika provuces kroz plocicu sa rupicama.Sa zadnje strane ne pravis veze kalajem(tzv stampana plocica),vec vezu sa drugim elementom ostvaris sa bakarnom zicom koju sa nozicom otpornika ostvaris spiralnim uvrtanjem.Tako se nekada radilo bez stampane plocice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
空也 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 ПојаÑни.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_wrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
空也 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Da ne bi otvarao novu temu,imam jedno pitanje,a u vezi lemljenja: da li postoji aparatic koji bi umesto lema sastavljao zice kao nekada, u spiralu ?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_wrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoxomoxoa Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hvala,slika govori sve.Kako ostvariti takvu vezu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
空也 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Kucamo u isto vreme! Odgovor je u postu iznad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoxomoxoa Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Da,istina.Hvala najlepse kolega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
空也 Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Nema na cemu! Takve veze sam imao izmedju stampanih ploca u svom starom tjuneru (Kenwood KT-917). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoxomoxoa Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Po meni bolja veza,nema hladnog lema i sl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Po meni bolja veza,nema hladnog lema i sl. Ali ima vazduha koliko hoćeš. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Mislim da je stara metoda sa spiralama najbolja. Recimo za point to point kod lampasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acivoj Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Vredi li ovaj ovih para? http://www.belielektronik.rs/Alati-i-instrumenti/Lemna-tehnika/Tinol-za-lemljenje/Tinol-1.0mm/TINOL-1-250SnCu Edit: Cena se vidi samo kad se uloguje pa vam se pardoniram. 250gr košta 1,099.00 din. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoranzu Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Mislim da je stara metoda sa spiralama najbolja. Recimo za point to point kod lampasa. Ako se jos neko seca Americkih pojacal,lampasa Quicksilver, spajanje elemenata je dupolo radjeno ,uvrtanjem pa lemljenjem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aibo Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Nekoliko takvih spojeva, uvrtanje+lem, sam video na Harmanu HK6500, samo ponegde izmeÄ‘u ploÄa i pitao se zaÅ¡to je tako uraÄ‘eno i da li je bitno baÅ¡ na tim mestima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicP Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Uvrtanje + lem je pro varijanta. KoriÅ¡tena kao standardni naÄin povezivanja u telefonskim centralama i vojnoj opremi. Jeste najsigurniji spoj. Postoje posebni povodnici za baÅ¡ taj naÄin povezivanja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Pa sad zavisi kako se izvede kontakt. Ona fora gde se elemet progura kroz rupu ploÄice pa se za njegovu nogicu neÅ¡to dalje veže je ok ali nije kada se kao u Yamaha-ma i joÅ¡ po negde, neka metalna nakalaisana nogica lemi za Å¡tampu pa se na nju hvata spiralni lem. To meni nema zdravog "Audiofilskog" razuma. Ako se slažete? ÄŒemu ludaÄki profi lem kada ide signal kroz neko metalno zlo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sondek Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 http://www.wbt.de/english/products/a/Detailansicht/Artikel/silberloetzinn-1.htmlmalo je toga kod mene za lemljenje,al kad treba volim da je s ovim.Sa time su mi lemljeni i rca ulazi na bivsem ampu,zvucnicki konektori i na interkonektima petopolci,4-polci,XLR-i i BNC...svi konektorski izazovi kojima te naim te naim izlozi ako nemas njihove originalne zice.Dakle i nije tako malo kad bolje razmislim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den!s Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Da li ima kod nas da se nadje ovaj WBT kalaj „0800“ sa 4% srebra? Vidim da mu je pakovanje consumer tipa, 42 grama... Ne verujem da kosta kao bubreg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolja.t Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Da li ima kod nas da se nadje ovaj WBT kalaj „0800“ sa 4% srebra? Vidim da mu je pakovanje consumer tipa, 42 grama... Ne verujem da kosta kao bubreg Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den!s Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 To! Ja ne nadjoh na sajtu... A leed-free je? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolja.t Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 To! Ja ne nadjoh na sajtu... A leed-free je? Bezolovni... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Bezolovni... Еуро безоловни. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicP Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Pa sad zavisi kako se izvede kontakt. Ona fora gde se elemet progura kroz rupu ploÄice pa se za njegovu nogicu neÅ¡to dalje veže je ok ali nije kada se kao u Yamaha-ma i joÅ¡ po negde, neka metalna nakalaisana nogica lemi za Å¡tampu pa se na nju hvata spiralni lem. To meni nema zdravog "Audiofilskog" razuma. Ako se slažete? ÄŒemu ludaÄki profi lem kada ide signal kroz neko metalno zlo! To metalno zlo je obiÄno posrebreni bakar. Tako rade jer je zgodno za industrijsku proizvodnju i jer je mehaniÄki stabilno, neće lako da se odlomi žica od truckanja. Koristim to reÅ¡enje u svojim uradcima kada nemam pristup donjoj strani ploÄice za direktno zalemiti. Ne primetih neku razliku zbog 10mm bakra debljine 1mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Da li ima kod nas da se nadje ovaj WBT kalaj „0800“ sa 4% srebra? Vidim da mu je pakovanje consumer tipa, 42 grama... Ne verujem da kosta kao bubreg Ðије "0800" ал' бар човек прати фабулу радње : https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/WBT-srebrni-lem-23764358-oglas.htm?filter_id=2118163 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jager Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Kinezi kažu http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Fidelity-a-whole-German-WBT-0800-silver-4-100-WBT-solder-wire/32367510930.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Germany-1-meter-WBT-0820-splder-silver-0-8mm-solder-wire-silver-tin/32367968789.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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