pera451 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Na raznim mestima (casopis "Gramaphone", knjige, ...) nailazio sam na razne liste, ali mozda napravimo jednu i sami. Dakle: 100 najvaznijih dela klasicne muzike po izboru clanova foruma i njihova referentna izvodjenja (par alternativa, da moze da se nadje bar jedno izvodjenje). Primer: "Antonio Vivaldi - Quattro Stagioni". Izvodjenje "I Musici", postoje dve verzije. Ranija, sa Felix Ayo-om na violini i kasnija sa Pina-om Carmirelli. Itd. Willi, ne stedi tastaturu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ja ću morati prvo da se ogradim u jednom delu: sigurno ćemo se složiti oko najvažnijih dela ali izvoÄ‘enja koja smatram za referentna se Äesto razmimoilaze sa ukusom publike i ocenama Äasopisa i bazirana su na sluÅ¡nom i teorijskom istraživanju perioda, naroÄito baroka, gde uvek insistiram na poÅ¡tovanju izvornog tonaliteta, temperovanja, tempa, muziÄkog vokabulara i izražajnih sredstava i, naravno, originalnih instrumenata. Evo prvih 10 SPSKTDI (svaka poÅ¡tena srpska kuća treba da ima) sa kojima nećete pogreÅ¡iti i koja su nabavljiva: J.S.Bach: Goldberg Variations - Trevor Pinnock, Äembalo (Archiv) J.S.Bach: Sonate i partite za solo violinu - Henryk Szeryng, violina (Deutsche Grammophon) J.S.Bach: Svite za solo violonÄelo - Pierre Fournier, violonÄelo (Deutsche Grammophon) J.S.Bach: Umetnost fuge - Glenn Gould, klavir/orgulje (Sony) J.S.Bach: Tokate i fuge za orgulje - Ton Koopman, orgulje (Archiv) J.S.Bach: MuziÄka žrtva - B.Kuijken, flauta, W.Kuijken, violina, S.Kuijken, viola da gamba, R.Kohnen, Äembalo (Deutsche Harmonia Mundi-Editio Classica) J.S.Bach: Koncerti za gudaÄe i Äembala - The English Concert/Trevor Pinnock (Archiv) J.S.Bach: BrandenburÅ¡ki koncerti - Karl Richter (Deutsche Grammophon) J.S.Bach: Svite za orkestar - The English Concert/Trevor Pinnock (Deutsche Grammophon) J.S.Bach: Pasija po Mateju (odlomci) - La Petite bande/Gustav Leonhardt Au, sve Bach, a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera451 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Dakle, Bach za sada apsolviran. Mali predlog za buduce pisanje, zbog daljeg trazenja, je da pisemo nazive u "originalu" (Die Kunst der Fuge, itd.), bice malo lakse za nalazenje. Neka se pripreme Mozart, Haendel i van Betoven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No.9 - Wiener Philharmoniker/Claudio Abbado (Sony Masterworks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 W.A.Mozart: Le Nozze di Figaro - Salzburg Vienna Philharmoniker/Herbert von Karajan (Decca) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera451 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Sta od kombinacije Betoven - von Karajan? Ili da Karajan-a sacuvamo za Wagner-a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatgoeson Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 U rukama mi je enciklopedijski leksikon "Mozaik znanja", o muziÄkoj umetnosti. Pod odrednicom "diskografija" je navedeno nekih Äetiri stotine (najvažnijih?) dela, sa po tri - Äetiri alternativna izvoÄ‘enja. No, knjiga je izdata joÅ¡ '72. Hoću da kažem da je ovo priliÄno zametan posao. LiÄno imam neke favorite, ali su se oni naÅ¡li kod mene sticajem okolnosti a ne kao rezultat izbora i poreÄ‘enja. Za jedno deset godina, eto mene sa predlozima. Predlažem, dok se ne javi joÅ¡ neko, da Willi preÄ‘e sa Bacha na... PS. Vidim da je nastavio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No.5, Orchestre Revolutionnaire et romantique/John Eliott Gardiner (Archiv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron man Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ako bih birao samo dve klasicne kompozicije koje smem da ponesem na pusto ostrvo, onda su to: Haydn - Cello concert 1 Dvorzak- Iz novoga sveta Sinfonija br 9 Sto se tice izvodjenja imam ih u vise primeraka ali su najbolji ( od toga sto imam) Haydn na vinilu ( Melodija) i Dvorak od Dojche gramofona A ako smem da se tovarim do broja 100, onda tu mnogo Vivaldija, pa muzike baroka, opera.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlada24 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Sta od kombinacije Betoven - von Karajan? Ili da Karajan-a sacuvamo za Wagner-a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arn Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Pozdrav svima! Već duže vreme se motam ovuda kao maÄka oko slanine, ali ovaj topik me je naterao da se definitivno registrujem ïŠ Uz sve moguće ograde zbog subjektivnosti i razliÄitosti ukusa, mojih nekoliko favorita su sledeći: 1. J.S. Bach. Matthäus-Passion (Karl Richter; Archiv, 1980). 2. J.S. Bach. Weihnachtsoratorium (Karl Richter; Archiv, 1965). 3. G.F. Händel. Giulio Cesare in Egitto (René Jacobs; Harmonia Mundi, 1992). 4. W.A. Mozart. Don Giovanni (Colin Davis; Philips, 1991). 5. W.A. Mozart. Requiem (Karl Böhm; Deutsche Grammophon, 1990). 6. L. van Beethoven. 9 Symphonien (Herbert von Karajan; Deutsche Grammophon, 1993). 7. L. van Beethoven. Triple Concerto (Richter, Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Karajan; EMI Classics, 1993). U paketu sa ovim se nalazi i Brahms-ov dupli koncert pod dirigentskom palicom Szell-a. 8. G. Mahler. Symphony No.5 (Georg Solti; Decca, 1991). 9. N. Paganini. Violin Concertos Nos.1&2 (Yehudi Menuhin, Alberto Erede; EMI Classics, 1990). 10. G. Verdi. Macbeth (Giuseppe Sinopoli; Philips, 1984). 11. G. Puccini. La Bohème (Thomas Beecham; EMI Classics, 2002). 12. R. Wagner. Die Walküre (Bernard Haitink; EMI Classics, 1988). 13. R. Wagner. Tannhäuser (Otto Gerdes; Deutsche Grammophon, 1984). 14. R. Wagner. Der fliegende Holländer (Otto Klemperer; EMI, 1989). Ne kažem da se sve ovo može lako nabaviti, ali vredi truda. @ pera451 Karajan-Betoven je definitivno dobitna kombinacija. HvK je odliÄno plivao u svim vodama, od Vivaldija do Riharda Å trausa, ali je Betovena dirigovao bar za nijansu bolje od ostalih. S druge strane, ista ta nijansa je falila Karajanu da dostigne savrÅ¡enstvo Kolina Dejvisa u Mocartovim operama. Niko nije majstor za sve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera451 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Odlicno za mene, posto nesto od te kombinacije imam na DG originalima . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bec Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 gospoda da vam se pridruzim sa mojim favoritima(mada su i vasi remek delo) - J.S.BACH : Goldberg Variotionen - Glenn Gould,klavir(sony) - L.v - .Beethoven : Symphonie Nr.9 -Janowitz,R.Majdan,Kmentt,Berliner Philharmoniker,Karajan (DG) - L.v.Beethoven : Violin sonatas No.5 Springs.No.9 Kreutzer,David Oistrakh(violine)-Lev Oborin(klavir) (Philips) - Chopin : Piano Sonatas No.2 - Funeral March & No.3 ,Rubinstein,klavir - Gustav Mahler : Symponie Nr.5 ,Chicago Symphony Orchestra , Georg Solti ( Decca) - W.A.Mozart : Klavirkonzert Nr.20 , Friedrich Gulda , klavir , Wiener Philharmoniker,Claudio Abbado (D.G.) - W.A.Mozart : Grosse Messe C - Moll ,Winer Philharmoniker ,Karajan ( D.G.) - Rachmaninoff : Klavirkonzert Nr.2,Evegeny Kissin , klavir , London Symphony Orchestra ,Valery Gergiec (RCA) - P.I.Tschaikowsky : Klavierkonzert Nr.1 , Mikhail Pletnev, klavir , The Philharmonia , Vladimir Fedosejev ( EMI ) - J.S.Bach : Die Orchestersuiten , Academy of St. Martin in the Fields ,Neville Marriner , plus Violinkonzert Nr.3(PHILIPS ) Toliko od mene ...mada ima ih ,ma sta reci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera451 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Klavierkonzert Nr.1 , Mikhail Pletnev. A Pogorelic, za DG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bec Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Evo jos par naslova; - Hector Berlioz : Syphonie Fantastique , Chicago Symphony Orchestra , Claudio Abbado ( D.G. ) - Chopin : Nocturnes , Rubinstein , klavir ( BMG ) - Gustav Holst : Die Planeten ,Berliner Philharmoniker , Karajan ( DG ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pera451 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Ovo izvodjenje Holst-a je i meni jako dobro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyOne Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 preporucujem - http://www.alia-vox.com/' rel="external nofollow"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlada24 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 preporucujem - http://www.alia-vox.com/' rel="external nofollow"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Bela Bartok: Piano Concertos Nos.1,2&3 - Stephen Kovacevic, London Symphony orchestra, Sir Colin Davis (Philips) (ovaj disk može povoljno da se nađe i kod nas na združenoj etiketi Eloquence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Georg Phillip Telemann: Blasernkonzerte, Musica Antiqua Koln, Reinhard Goebel (Archiv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Ludwig van Beethoven: VIolin Concerto, Gideon Kremer, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Nikolaus Harnoncourt (Teldec) (na istom disku se nalaze i dve romanse za violinu i orkestar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Claudio Monteverdi: Vespro della Beata Vergine (Marienvesper), English Baroque Soloists, His Majesty's Sagbutts and Cornetts, The Monteverdi Choir/John Eliott Gardiner (Archiv) Claudio Monteverdi: L'Orfeo - favola in musica, Concert des nations/Jordi Savall (BBC) Claudio Monteverdi: L'incoronazione di Poppea, Concentus Musicus Wien/Nikolaus Harnoncourt (Teldec) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMOT Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sibelius : Symphony No 2 in D major, Opus 43, The Royal Philharmonic , kondukter je Sir John Barbirolli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arn Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Postoji i jedno prastaro izvođenje Bahovog Božićnog oratorijuma sa Helen Watts i verovatno najtoplijom interpretacijom uspavanke Schlafe, mein Liebster, samo ne znam ostale 'generalije' ovog naslova, osim što je dirigent skoro sigurno Karl Münchinger. Willi, može pomoć? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatgoeson Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Postoji i jedno prastaro izvođenje Bahovog Božićnog oratorijuma sa Helen Watts i verovatno najtoplijom interpretacijom uspavanke Schlafe, mein Liebster, samo ne znam ostale 'generalije' ovog naslova, osim što je dirigent skoro sigurno Karl Münchinger. Willi, može pomoć? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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