HMrules Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Sinoć sam slušao gramofon, u međuvremenu sam zaspao i gramofon je ostao uključen nekih 6 sati, kada sam se probudio čuo sam zujanje motora, isključio sam gramofon i skinuo tanjir, motor je bio izuzetno vruć, sačekao sam nekih 10-15 minuta i ponovo uključio gramofon ali nije se čulo nikakvo zujanje, probao sam ploču i ne bih rekao da svira usporeno ili nešto slično, interesuje me da li je motor možda oštećen posle ovoga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sondek Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Uzmi test plocu pa pogledaj da li je brzina tacna i stabilna.6 sati za motor nebi trebao biti nikakav problem.Ako se nesto cuje iz motora i greje se verovatno bi ga trebalo podmazati.Kakva je situacija sada?Doduse jest frućina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 5:39, HMrules said: interesuje me da li je motor možda oštećen posle ovoga? Мислим да не, скини погонски кајиш и укључи мотор да ради те надгледај да ли се греје. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Ako ti je ovih dana toplije u stanu, najverovatnije se ceo motor zagrejao od elektronske regulacije brzine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 10 sati ranije, sondek said: Uzmi test plocu pa pogledaj da li je brzina tacna i stabilna.6 sati za motor nebi trebao biti nikakav problem.Ako se nesto cuje iz motora i greje se verovatno bi ga trebalo podmazati.Kakva je situacija sada?Doduse jest frućina Probaću sa test pločom, samo prvo da je kupim 5 sati ranije, stoN_Cold said: Мислим да не, скини погонски кајиш и укључи мотор да ради те надгледај да ли се греје. Uključio sam i nadgledam. 5 sati ranije, Willi Studer said: Ako ti je ovih dana toplije u stanu, najverovatnije se ceo motor zagrejao od elektronske regulacije brzine. Toplije jeste, naročito što mi je soba na južnoj strani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 13 minuta ranije, HMrules said: Uključio sam i nadgledam. Само напред Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Evo motor postaje vruć, malo mi je neobično zašto se tako brzo zagrejao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Како је са температуром? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Sobnom ili temperaturom motora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Мотора, наравно. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Čim je postao vruć ugasio sam ga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giZ_Mo Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Када се угрејао да ли је имао снаге, тј. на додир да ли се лако зауставља? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio(DDMF)! Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Slicni/isti simptomi su opisani i ovde : "I bought my 6.1sb new, it was treated like a baby and had little use. The problem seems to be (my observation) is that on the better TT's in the Project and Music hall range were the platters are heavier the motor just cant cope. The first symptoms are during a longer session were you listen for more than a couple of hours, the motor getting hotter and starts to badly buzz. As time goes on the time before buzzing starts gets less and the buzz gets worse. Also the ceramic bearings also wear very quickly and get noisy, again due to the heavier platter. The basic design of the new range is good, but until these problems are addressed i would look elsewere." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 4 sati ranije, stoN_Cold said: Када се угрејао да ли је имао снаге, тј. на додир да ли се лако зауставља? Ima snage naravno. 3 sati ranije, Scorpio(DDMF)! said: Slicni/isti simptomi su opisani i ovde : "I bought my 6.1sb new, it was treated like a baby and had little use. The problem seems to be (my observation) is that on the better TT's in the Project and Music hall range were the platters are heavier the motor just cant cope. The first symptoms are during a longer session were you listen for more than a couple of hours, the motor getting hotter and starts to badly buzz. As time goes on the time before buzzing starts gets less and the buzz gets worse. Also the ceramic bearings also wear very quickly and get noisy, again due to the heavier platter. The basic design of the new range is good, but until these problems are addressed i would look elsewere." Koliko sam razumeo čovek je imao isti problem kao i ja i misli da je slab motor i težak tanjir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Motor se i dalje zagreva i zuji ako gramofon radi duže vreme, npr. 2-3 sata, da li je rešenje zamena motora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sondek Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Zamena motora,pa prodaja gramofona mirne savesti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Evo kako izgleda posle otprilike 2 i po sata rada motora.Video: https://streamable.com/zy1jm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Da li se osećaju vibracije na kućištu motora? Koliko mogu da čujem sa snimka, zujanje nije mehaničko nego je u pitanju DC/AC elektronika. A možda i zvuk na snimku zavarava i da su ležajevi motora suvi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Kada stavim prst na kućište motora osećam vibraciju i čini mi se da se malo povećava vibracija ako motor duže radi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Pokušaj da podmažeš oba ležaja sa po jednom kapi nekog mekog i neutralnog ulja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Prvi ležaj je pretpostavljam ispod točkića oko osovine, gde je drugi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Tako je, gornji ležaj je ispod remenika a donji je na drugom kraju osovine. Za to bi trebalo izvaditi motor iz ležišta u šasiji. Ali pre svega toga, ako je gramofon još uvek u dvogodišnjoj garanciji ne bi trebalo dirati ništa nego ga odneti u ovlašćeni servis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ne, polovan je. Znači da odšrafim samo ona 4 crna šrafa što su oko motora i izvadim motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willi Studer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Prvo slikaj, da budemo sigurni. Koje ulje imaš? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMrules Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ima na video snimku ta 4 šrafa. Imam Pro-Ject ulje koje sam koristio za podmazivanje osovine tanjira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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