gvlada Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Meni za STX asio daje od 1ms na gore i radi mi podjednako stabilno i na 1ms. Koristim kao spdif out. Kao sto rekoh, nasao da je 50ms preporuceno pa sam tu i ostavio. Asio je takodje deo drivera za STX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 PC zvucna kartica, USB Audio Interface i USB DAC nije isto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSong Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Kod mene instalirani UniXonar drajveri i 10ms je difolt - cini mi se da je ranije bilo kao sto si napisao oko 50ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I ja imam UniXonar drivere. Inace, da nisam citao direktno za xonar zvucne karte nego za slusanje muzike uz pomoc asio drivera. Preporuka je bila 50ms. Sto se mene tice stavite koliko god zelite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Best player sa Asiom Kajzeru mani se belaja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Foobar isto nije stabilan za ASIO i sam developer ga ne preporucuje osim ako se mora. Please note that this component is meant for systems where ASIO is the only available output method. It is highly recommended to use the default output modes instead of ASIO. Contrary to popular "audiophile" claims, there are NO benefits from using ASIO as far as music playback quality is concerned, while bugs in ASIO drivers may severely degrade the performance. Mozda nekome dobro radi ASIO preko bilo koji plejer na PC kartice, ali svako ko ima USB DAC ili Audio Interface vezan eksterno zna sta su muke kad koristis paralelno komp i za muziku i surfanje/rad. Testirao sam sve zivo, JRiver je bogovski. Ima razloga zasto je sve ostalo free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Taj citat sa foobarovog sajta je od pre jedno 300 godina.Pavlovski se ogradjuje ako neko neshto zezne(drajver.asio verzija ...).Zbog toga je Windows 7 preuzeo zvuk i sliku.Od tada sa mnogo toga promenilo.Ne mora da znachi da sve shto radi stabilno radi i ok(primer za video renderer EVR i Madvr).Wasapi(event 24bita) ce ti sigurno raditi ok kao output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 AI mi koristi native ASIO drajvere, preko WASAPI ima dropouts. Opet babe i zmajeve kompariramo. Nije USB DAC, USB audio interface i PC kartica isto bre ljudi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garson Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 AI mi koristi native ASIO drajvere, preko WASAPI ima dropouts. Opet babe i zmajeve kompariramo. Nije USB DAC, USB audio interface i PC kartica isto bre ljudi. Ja sam imao USB DAC sa PCM1204 (valjda) cipom, Ploytec ASIO drajvere i sve je lepo sljakalo u XMPlayu, nikad nijedan problem nisam imao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wow ovaj mali XMPlay je opasan. Instalacija je piece of cake, downloadirnaje i otpakovanje. Skinuo sam FLAC i ASIO, samo pastiram u folder i radi. Outputi sve podeseni, veoma stedljiv na resurse, stabilan, maltretiram komp, apsemplujem na 24/96, paralelno pustam Youtube i sl. Testiran i na Latency Monitor. Mirna voda. Zaista dobar mali plejer, alternativa Foobara koju nisam znao. Interfejs je stari dobar Winamp stil, pa kome pase, eto zamenu. Slusam Buika - La Niña De Fuego na flac i sve odlicno zvuci. Kako treba. I od mene preporuka za XMPlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Haha ovo im je dobro! Interpolation & volume/pan ramping For output that's smoother than a baby's arse! http://www.un4seen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garson Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wow ovaj mali XMPlay je opasan. Instalacija je piece of cake, downloadirnaje i otpakovanje. Skinuo sam FLAC i ASIO, samo pastiram u folder i radi. Outputi sve podeseni, veoma stedljiv na resurse, stabilan, maltretiram komp, apsemplujem na 24/96, paralelno pustam Youtube i sl. Testiran i na Latency Monitor. Mirna voda. Zaista dobar mali plejer, alternativa Foobara koju nisam znao. Interfejs je stari dobar Winamp stil, pa kome pase, eto zamenu. Slusam Buika - La Niña De Fuego na flac i sve odlicno zvuci. Kako treba. I od mene preporuka za XMPlay. Svakako je najstedljivi po resurse i neverovatna cinjenica je da je .exe fajl manji od 300KB i u sebi sadrzi default skin osnovne dekodere (dovoljno da pusti recimo mp3 ). Sama instalacija je portable, ne ostavlja tragove u sistemu, ne prcka po registryju, veoma stabilan, dosta opcija, pluginovi su odlicni... Jedino sto mu fali od naprednijih opcija je multiple playlist sto ce verovatno biti u novoj verziji. P.S. Neke naprednije opcije su skrivene, dostupne samo u .ini fajlu, ali ima na sajtu sta i kako se moze podesiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Preporuka je bila 50ms. Upravo tako.To je ok za slushanje muzike bez krcanja i pucanja dok rnjate po netu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoces reci da za "ekskluzivno" slusanje muzike nije? Ozb, ako nije reci mi zasto i koliko treba? 1ms? Pitam... Probao sam i radi isto ok, bez problema. 50ms sam izabrao samo zato sto je "preporuceno" a ako nisam primetio razliku nisam hteo da teram inat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 50 ms je ok.Ispod toga imam probleme sa muzikom(pucketanje) kad isforsiram surf ,ju tube i ostalo.Koristim Asusove drajvere i analog out.Nisam prethodni post napisao kontraverzno vec stvarno imam podesheno 50ms u kontrol panelu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSong Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 ^ Mislim da i kada forsiras ne bi trebalo da ima problema . . Meni radi sa 1ms i 50ms podjednako isto ( otvoreno od 10 do 20 tabova u Operi, prebacivanje fajlova s hdd-a na hdd u pozadini itd ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 To bi bio neki buffer za svaki slucaj. Pitao sam da li postoji razlog da se ide na nize tj bas 1ms ili 10ms ili koliko. Razliku nisam primetio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Razlike u zvuku makar kod mene nema nikakve izmedju 1 i 80ms kod slusanja muzike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSong Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Razlog sam jedino nasao konkretno za 1ms ako se koristi mikrofon - za slusanje muzike nema nikakve razlike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Moguce za ulaz tj snimanje da treba niza latencija ali taj deo nisam nikada testirao. Videcu sa burazom, sta i kako snima u studiu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Moguce za ulaz tj snimanje da treba niza latencija Upavo tako.Kod slusanja muzike nema razlike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Kad smo vec kod toga, na STX postoje pinovi za spdif input ali u driverima nije omogucen. Da li si nesto probao? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D i g i t a L Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ako mene pitash Vlade ne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvlada Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ja nisam nigde nasao neki driver koji bi to mogucio a da sam napisem ne umem. Ipak, sam za mreze a ne programe heh... Nasao da su diskutovali o tome na par foruma ali bez rezultata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Magician Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Da li neko ima problem da WASAPI skoro piÅ¡ti i ima veoma kompjuterski zvuk? ASIO radi perfektno (a inaÄe sam sluÅ¡ao da on pravi probleme). WASAPI mi perfektno radi u AIMP3, tako da je do JRiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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